Gang Stalking Network Exposed: Dr. Eric Karlstrom/Kev Baker Show on the Kay Griggs Interviews (6/19/18)

In this show, Dr. Eric Karlstrom discusses the important information brought forward by ex-military wife, Kay Griggs, in a series of extended interviews she did in 1998, 2005, and 2006. By birth and by marriage, Kay Griggs is a consummate political insider. She holds Bachelors and Masters degrees in history and is a descendant of James Madison. As becomes clear in the interviews, Griggs became a “TI” (targeted individual) after complaining about the presence of topless dancers at a tax-payer-sponsored military officers’ party. Once she became “flagged” and “targeted,” Kay Griggs had to fight for her life. Senior White House correspondent (since the Roosevelt administration!), Sarah McClendon, took Kay in when she was homeless and thereby, probably saved her life. Sarah McClendon believed Kay’s testimony. I too believe Kay’s testimony because it dovetails with so much other information I have come across independently, particularly the information presented in Mark M. Rich’s, “New World War: Revolutionary Methods for Political Control” (2011).

The posts we refer to in this interview, also on on this website, are:

1) Kay Griggs (Ex-Military Wife) Interviews: The U.S. Military is a Mind-Control Operation Run by Sexual Deviants

2) Who and What is “The Brotherhood”/”Firm”/”Syndicate”? How Does It and Their Organized Stalking System Work?” Highlights from Kay Griggs Interviews of 1998/2005s

Dr. Karlstrom’s notes/quotes prepared for the show:

“Should the practice of Spydom become universal, farewell to all domestic confidence and happiness.”

London Times, Christmas 1859

“I will splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the wind.”

–President John F. Kennedy, shortly before he was assassinated

“It is the function of the CIA to keep the world unstable, and to propagandize the American people to hate, so we will let the establishment spend any amount of money on arms….”

John Stockwell, Ex-CIA Station Chief and highest CIA employee to “go public”

“Abolish the CIA and Covert Action: The Organizing Committee demands the CIA and covert action be abolished not only because we recognize that the CIA serves only the multinational corporate empire, which is thoroughly anti-democratic and un-American, but also because the CIA ls a criminal organization and covert actions are criminal actions.” (From CounterSpy Volume 2, Issue 4, 1976)

“Intelligence operations have turned out to be a domestic war.” Maria Serna, Crusade For Justice (From CounterSpy Volume 3, Issue 1, 1976)


“It wasn’t so hard,”
he said
taking a long, deep drag on his cigar.
“She was all bluff.
When you got beneath her skin,
she was just bravado, spit and string.
I snapped her like a twig.”

They sat in silence on the bench
in Central Park
breathing in the power of dark suits
and expensive cigars
and blowing small, frail rings
which hung in the air
for as long as it would take
for them to appear as if they were actually
and then they dissolved
into the dying grey afternoon.

A small black squirrel
darted from behind a cedar
sniffed the air
then began to burrow under
the stiiff, crimson-veined leaves.
Winter’s coming.
Save what you can.

Janet Phelan

The FBI’s stated motivation was “protecting national security, preventing violence, and maintaining the existing social and political order.[sic.]”[17]

1956-71 onwards: FBI and cooperating agencies used “counter-intelligence ops”- infiltration, psyops, breaking and entering, framing, harassment via legal system, illegal force (up to political assassinations),

“Targeted” and “Neutralized” (murdered or “suicided”) victims of COINTELPRO included Jean Seberg, Ernest Hemingway, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, 28 Black Panthers, Fred Hampton, Ralph Abernathy, James Baldwin, Stokely Charmichael, Eldridge Cleaver, Senator Tom Hayden, Abbie Hoffman, Clark Kerr (President of U of California), Huey Newton, Leonard Peltier, Geronimo Pratt, and folk singer, Judi Bari.

Groups and individuals FBI considered subversive: groups considered part of the “new left,” civil rights movement, Anti-Vietnam war protesters, Black Panther Party, American communist party, independence movements, American Indian Movement, Earth First!, Anti-Globalization movements, White-Separatist Movement.

CIA’s Operation Chaos: dossiers on 300,000 Americans.

“Counter-terrorism” movement under Reagan re-established.

From Dehumanization and Devolution: The Torture-Mind Control Agenda Exposed (Dr. Paul Marko, Mindy Urkin, and Pinecone Utopia)

The Torture-Mind Control Agenda Exposed; MK-ULTRA, Gitmo, Gang Stalking, and The Electronic Concentration Camp: Dr. Paul Marko video

A working definition of “organized stalking/electronic torture:”

The goal is to create a nationwide system of “vigilantes” who do not think for themselves but follow orders- the Evildoing, US-Govt-paid “defense” contractors’ private army of “shooters” (not thinkers). The network is run by contractors and by DHS’s (Department of Homeland Security’s) 78 fusion centers. The propaganda is that they are fighting terrorists (and that is what they tell these vigilante suckers.) The truth is that they are constructing a nationwide GPS/cellphone- directed prison system that now contains ALL Americans.”


“As a lead-up to globalization, it’s obviously necessary to perfect techniques of torture to terrorize and eventually eliminate anyone that might present opposition to the grand Satanic design. A well-known incarnation of this technique of extreme fear-based control wielded by fascist states came into the public awareness through the activities of the German Stasi and the Red Terror in Russia under the Bolshevik Cheka, which ran an arrest, internment, and execution campaign that institutionalized the gulag prison system. In America, this fear-based mind control program of torture and execution was rolled out and perfected for use against Americans and citizens worldwide in South Vietnam in a program known as the Phoenix Program.”

Dr. Paul Marko asks the question: “Who authorized the U.S. government to produce mind-control slaves? I didn’t. Did you?”



“If we acknowledge that the new principles of war are no longer “using armed force to compel the enemy to submit to one’s will,” but rather are “using all means, including armed force or non-armed force, military and non-military, and lethal and non-lethal means to compel the enemy to accept one’s interests.”

(Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui, People’s Liberation Army (PLA))

Quotes on war:

Brig. Gen. Smedley Butler (1935):

War is a racket. It has always been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small “inside” group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.

In the World War [I] a mere handful garnered the profits of the conflict. At least 21,000 new millionaires and billionaires were made in the United States during the World War. That many admitted their huge blood gains in their income tax returns. How many other war millionaires falsified their tax returns no one knows.

How many of these war millionaires shouldered a rifle? How many of them dug a trench? How many of them knew what it meant to go hungry in a rat-infested dug-out? How many of them spent sleepless, frightened nights, ducking shells and shrapnel and machine gun bullets? How many of them parried a bayonet thrust of an enemy? How many of them were wounded or killed in battle?

Out of war nations acquire additional territory, if they are victorious. They just take it. This newly acquired territory promptly is exploited by the few — the selfsame few who wrung dollars out of blood in the war. The general public shoulders the bill.

There are 40,000,000 men under arms in the world today, and our statesmen and diplomats have the temerity to say that war is not in the making.

Hell’s bells! Are these 40,000,000 men being trained to be dancers?

I spent 33 years in the Marines, most of my time being a high-class muscleman for big business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for Capitalism.

I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1916. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City (bank) boys to collect revenue in. I helped in the rape of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. In China, in 1927, I helped see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested. I had… a swell racket. I was rewarded with honors, medals, promotions…. I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was operate a racket in three cities. The Marines operated on three continents.

Every war which Americans have fought or may fight in the future outside their own continental boundaries has been or will be a racket- a mean, cruel, yes, filthy racket. During our participation in the World War (I), our soldiers thought they were fighting to defend their homes, to make the world safe for democracy, were fighting a war to end wars. Rot! Pure, unadulterated, sickening rot!

War is largely a matter of money. Bankers lend the money to foreign countries and when they cannot pay, the President sends Marines to get it.

Why don’t those damned oil companies fly their own flags on their personal property- maybe a flag with a gas pump on it.

Retired Brigadier General Smedley D. Butler, USMC (America’s most decorated soldier), from War is a Racket and speech in 1931 and 1933

I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend more on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations… This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is a new in the American experience… We must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources, and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of society.

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. The world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.

The people of the world genuinely want peace. Some day the leaders of the world are going to have to give in and give it to them…. Beware of the military-industrial complex.

President/General Dwight D. Eisenhower, Farewell address, 1961

On the domestic front, the Cold war…. gave the U.S. a way to compel its population to subsidize high-tech industry (GE and Boeing, etc., through the Pentagon system). It isn’t easy to sell all that to the domestic populations. The technique used was the old stand-by- fear of a great enemy.

Noam Chomsky, What Uncle Sam Really Wants

America is today the leader of a world-wide anti-revolutionary movement in the defense of vested interests. She now stands for what Rome stood for. Rome consistently supported the rich against the poor in all foreign communities that fell under her sway; and, since the poor, so far, have always and everywhere been far more numerous than the rich, Rome’s policy made for inequality, for injustice, and for the least happiness of the greatest number.

Arnold Toynbee (historian), 1961

Coming to grips with these U.S./CIA activities in broad numbers and figuring out how many people have been killed in the jungles of Laos or the hills of Nicaragua is very difficult. But, adding them up as best we can, we come up with a figure of six million people killed- and this is a minimum figure. Included are: one million killed in the Korean War, two million killed the Vietnam War, 800,000 killed in Indonesia, one million in Cambodia, 20,000 killed in Angola, and 22,000 killed in Nicaragua. These people would not have died if U.S. tax dollars had not been spent by the CIA to inflame tensions, finance covert political and military activity, and destabilize societies.

John Stockwell, “The Praetorian Guard: The U.S. Role in the New World Order”

Brian Willson and Holley Rauen, co-directors of the Institute for the Practice of Non-Violence, have estimated that between 20 and 30 million people have died in the major wars in the Third World since World War II.

Monarch: The New Phoenix Program (Marshall Thomas0

The Vietnam war was the formative experience for a generation of CIA and military intelligence personnel involved in the Phoenix program. They viewed the military defeat in Vietnam as a betrayal on the home front, a loss of will by domestic political enemies, not a military failure against a nationalistic revolution fought as a guerilla war.

The Phoenix program, assassinating suspected VC (Viet Cong) sympathizers in a systematic manner, worked well and is the blueprint for the current black operation (aka gang stalking) targeting thousands of loyal Americans using state of the art microwave and radio frequency radiation weapons. The motivation to suppress domestic dissidents and to assassinate loyal American opposition stems from the perception of dissent against the war as treason. This philosophy is stated very clearly in the “Mind War” (1980) paper written by Michael Aquino.

The Department of Defense has a huge stake in futuristic technology that kills by ionizing and non-ionizing radiation, leaving little or no trace. The indiscriminate killing of the Phoenix program continues on American soil. The terms “soft kill,” “slow kill,” and “silent kill” refer to the new way of killing the enemy in conflicts short of war and in small wars of the future. The counterinsurgency doctrine has now been applied to the home front so that the perceived betrayal of the military in Vietnam will not be repeated.

The generation of CIA and military intelligence led by Ted Shackley, Richard Helms, (CIA Director) William Casey, Maj. John Singlaub, Richard Secord, Maj. John B. Alexander, Col. Michael Aquino, Paul Vallilee and others have built the perfect beast, using selective assassination that leaves no trace. The ability to cull the human herd with “silent kill” technology allows a few personalities to remake the entire society in their own image.

Extremely low frequency (ELF) technology slowly drives the target crazy with silent sound, similar to the CIA MKULTRA psychiatrist, Dr. Ewen Cameron’s, “psychic driving” technique, used to break down the target’s personality. The new buzzwords at the Pentagon are “synthetic telepathy” and “psychotronics.” Another means of attack on targets is the Smirnoff patent, that uses subliminal suggestion to manipulate human behavior. This patent was purchased by the remote viewing company, Psi Tech Corporation.

Military intelligence officers involved in developing these “non-lethal weapons” also control Psi Tech. Emotional manipulation is accomplished using Dr. Michael Persinger’s work to remotely project emotional states that the brain entrains or locks onto and emulates. One can broadcast rage or fear at an individual target to manipulate and control them. As if these methods were not enough to torture and murder people, add to this nightmarish toolbox, active gang stalking. CIA-created cults and other cause-oriented groups are used by actively harassing them in public in neutralization techniques described in counterintelligence operations manuals that are aimed at enemy agents.

In the race to develop a new weapon it has always been necessary to test it on human beings. Perfecting the latest weapons designed to kill slowly and silently as well as perfecting the process of controlling the human mind are no different. Once the weaponry has been perfected on these few thousand people, the same techniques will be applied en mass to the general population and then to humanity as a whole.

One Reply to “Gang Stalking Network Exposed: Dr. Eric Karlstrom/Kev Baker Show on the Kay Griggs Interviews (6/19/18)”

  1. Eric! All of your publications are high level and amazing! Thanks you Very Much for your help to TIs!

    Nina Sidorova

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